JB had a similar dispute with desire as it was used by Deleuze and Guattari (but was not entirely dismissive of their ideas). Really good — i understood almost nothing . Baudrillard doesn't pull any punches when he lays into Foucault, and the interview makes me want to read more of his work. It was only after seven years of silence, after having thoroughly revisited its premises, that he published the … Pp. All of this would be moderately frustrating, and yet at the same time a kind of pleasure that makes for easy reading of difficult material -- I don't say "difficult concepts" because I'm not sure that the concepts are difficult at all; and yet it is because they appear to be concepts that the mind wrestles with them as with something difficult. In fact, not just subjectivity is lacking; we also learn in the course of this that power as well as sexuality have vanished as well -- Baudrillard I guess takes Foucault to the mathematical limit, so to speak, where power is dispersed to nothing. Forget Foucault (1977) made Baudrillard instantly infamous in France. There has to be a virtual Other than prevents power from drowning out the world in their excess--, I read this avidly, with the sense that I was getting closer to understanding Baudrillard's relationship to politics, to understanding why his thought had taken the turn it had post-68, from something recognizably Marxist to something that never quite made any sense. In the same vein, it can be maintained that Foucault, too, in his discourses on sexuality, madness, the … He isn't satisfied with Foucault's use of the concept of power, and pits a concept of his own, seduction, against it as a better alternative. It could no longer be an event, something real. There has to be a virtual Other than prevents powe, Forget Foucault is one of those polemical tracts that aren't openly confrontational but are all the more lethal for this reason. I had read the work under the guidance of Introduction by Sylvere Lotringer covering "And this is exactly the question Baudrillard raises in Forget Foucault-with a vengeance : "But what if Foucault spoke so well. This was a strange text at first. Semiotext(e). In part due to the translation but also due to Baudrillard's style. There's always a terror for me at the bottom of discussions of philosophy because it really takes the hood off things, then the engine apart, then the materials that comprise the engine, than the idea of the engine itself, etc, etc add nauseum until you find yourself crying out in terror at the fact that we really don't know anything about anything when we think about it for too long. Welcome back. 144. Translated by Phil Beitchman, Nicole Dufresne, Lee Hildreth and Mark Polizzotti, Distributed for بودریار با الهام از متفکری چون "ژرژ باتای" و همسو با نگرشهای متفکرانی چون "پل ویریلیو" و "الیاس کانِتی" و با اتکای همهجانبه به آموزههای نیچه، نظریهای چنان رادیکال را طرح کرده که اغلب کمترین مجالی برای برخورد انتقادی یا حتی سازنده باقی نمیگذارد. Baudrillard practices his 'fatal strategy' on the reader's subjectivity, or whatever there is after the crisis of representation spoken of. In this respect, Baudrillard has a lot in common with contemporary psychoanalysis. Maybe there were a couple of such moments. Just a moment while we sign you in to your Goodreads account. US$14.99 (paper ISBN-13: 978-1-58435-041-5). Both are interested in the event, which is a pure irruption of the real prior to its narratization, theorization, and symbolic appropriation. Jean Baudrillard Forget Foucault. Baudrillards' judgement is the constant speculation of deaths arrival. If you are unfamiliar with Baudrillard's work, then do not "judge the book by its cover" - as it were. Forget Foucault (1977) made Baudrillard instantly infamous in France. I read this avidly, with the sense that I was getting closer to understanding Baudrillard's relationship to politics, to understanding why his thought had taken the turn it had post-68, from something recognizably Marxist to something that never quite made any sense. As always, he is intellectually stimulating and fascinating, even though I've never entirely bought into his viewpoint. His work is frequently associated with postmodernism and post-structuralism. A ceaselessly discursive road of infinite digression and generalization (some of which is just plain wrong), it is safe to say if power in its 20th century, Foucauldian conception has disappeared, it is because coherence and logic as governance has disappeared from philosophy. In a torrent of haikus, which can now be seen as classically Baudrillardian, he swirls Foucault's concepts of repression, sexuality, production, consumption, and history around in an intense, and often comical, reversal of forces. The unconscious, much like power and desire, is produced through our simulacral positing of it. The titular forgetting refers, rather than to. Baudrillard very much subscribes to the idea that all discourse is metaphor and therefore only representation, that all understanding of reality is at most subjective theoretical models. Every paragraph, every sentence is a new itch on my back, just barely out of reach, and no amount of eye-straining can make sense of this convoluted pile of speculative, pataphysical sophistry. The interviews revealed a similar attitude, wherein B seems to repeat the same simple tenants over and over (seduction & disappearance, seduction & disappearance) no matter what the subject is. 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